no one disputes that mitt romney won the debate. and typically, you know, people were telling me, they feel as good as they've felt throughout this entire process. >> by the way, i thought, if i may paraphrase myself, a miracle on the debate i thought it was a great formative wonderful debate except for the omission of the fiscal debate, but i'm not concerned how much he raises, i want to him to show his guts, in his heart. if he doesn't have 100 million more, he can still win as long as he shows what's in his heart. >> i tell you what though, adam they expect a whole-- they probably spent more time on this presidential campaign, both candidates going for the walls instead of for the soul so far. >> and there's no question that there's plenty of people who want to give money to defeat president obama and seeing the debate the other night and believing again perhaps that mitt romney has the chance to do it, i would agree that that will help his fund raising and sorry to say, ben, the money does matter. it matters in our-- >> well, i